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	<description>Thoughts and Lessons from an African Open-Source Project</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Blow</title>
		<link>http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2009/05/12/transparency-communication-and-our-own-personal-failephant/comment-page-1/#comment-6952</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Blow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original search from Rabble&#039;s forum post returned 0 results: http://forums.ushahidi.com/topic/failing-at-open-source

A year and a half later there are now 47 repositories for that search: http://github.com/search?q=ushahidi&amp;type=Everything&amp;repo=&amp;langOverride=&amp;start_value=1

Awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original search from Rabble&#8217;s forum post returned 0 results: <a href="http://forums.ushahidi.com/topic/failing-at-open-source" rel="nofollow">http://forums.ushahidi.com/topic/failing-at-open-source</a></p>
<p>A year and a half later there are now 47 repositories for that search: <a href="http://github.com/search?q=ushahidi&#038;type=Everything&#038;repo=&#038;langOverride=&#038;start_value=1" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/search?q=ushahidi&#038;type=Everything&#038;repo=&#038;langOverride=&#038;start_value=1</a></p>
<p>Awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Making Ushahidi &#8212; WhiteAfrican</title>
		<link>http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2009/05/12/transparency-communication-and-our-own-personal-failephant/comment-page-1/#comment-6576</link>
		<dc:creator>Making Ushahidi &#8212; WhiteAfrican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] madly working over the next 12 hours to get our stuff straightened out. Finally I wrote another blog post, introducing our failephant mascot and apologizing for our ignorance and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] madly working over the next 12 hours to get our stuff straightened out. Finally I wrote another blog post, introducing our failephant mascot and apologizing for our ignorance and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peperuka</title>
		<link>http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2009/05/12/transparency-communication-and-our-own-personal-failephant/comment-page-1/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>Peperuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 06:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the way to move forward...  When I heard on BBC Digital Planet that Ushahidi were open-sourced I came to Ushahidi website to find out that code source were not available and only available in a Ushahidi&#039;s subdomain.  I was a bit disappointed, good to hear that it is now there to download.

And kudos to the team!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the way to move forward&#8230;  When I heard on BBC Digital Planet that Ushahidi were open-sourced I came to Ushahidi website to find out that code source were not available and only available in a Ushahidi&#8217;s subdomain.  I was a bit disappointed, good to hear that it is now there to download.</p>
<p>And kudos to the team!!</p>
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		<title>By: Miquel</title>
		<link>http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2009/05/12/transparency-communication-and-our-own-personal-failephant/comment-page-1/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator>Miquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s best to give Ushahidi all the open source attention whether Erik may want it or now &gt;:)  For us, Maneno is a long way away a point where open sourcing it makes any degree of sense.  As I&#039;m seeing with what Ushahidi is going through, you really need a good swath of hours bandwidth to manage the open source initiative and right now, we&#039;re just focused on getting the core to hum the right music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s best to give Ushahidi all the open source attention whether Erik may want it or now &gt;:)  For us, Maneno is a long way away a point where open sourcing it makes any degree of sense.  As I&#8217;m seeing with what Ushahidi is going through, you really need a good swath of hours bandwidth to manage the open source initiative and right now, we&#8217;re just focused on getting the core to hum the right music.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaushal</title>
		<link>http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2009/05/12/transparency-communication-and-our-own-personal-failephant/comment-page-1/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaushal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait .. does Ed&#039;s and Miquel&#039;s comments mean we might see an Open Source Meedan &amp; Maneno someday in the near future -- ahem!! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait .. does Ed&#8217;s and Miquel&#8217;s comments mean we might see an Open Source Meedan &amp; Maneno someday in the near future &#8212; ahem!! <img src='http://blog.ushahidi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2009/05/12/transparency-communication-and-our-own-personal-failephant/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve also set up an IRC channel at Meedan in response to this.

Check out http://blog.meedan.net/2009/05/14/opensourcing/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve also set up an IRC channel at Meedan in response to this.</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://blog.meedan.net/2009/05/14/opensourcing/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.meedan.net/2009/05/14/opensourcing/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bice</title>
		<link>http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2009/05/12/transparency-communication-and-our-own-personal-failephant/comment-page-1/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Bice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great response, Erik. Can you please open source the failephant graphic (with the ushahidi logo removed, of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great response, Erik. Can you please open source the failephant graphic (with the ushahidi logo removed, of course).</p>
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		<title>By: David Sasaki</title>
		<link>http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2009/05/12/transparency-communication-and-our-own-personal-failephant/comment-page-1/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sasaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posts like this are why I have so much admiration for you and the whole Ushahidi team, Erik. With this spirit I don&#039;t see how you can possibly fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posts like this are why I have so much admiration for you and the whole Ushahidi team, Erik. With this spirit I don&#8217;t see how you can possibly fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Konzett</title>
		<link>http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2009/05/12/transparency-communication-and-our-own-personal-failephant/comment-page-1/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Konzett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 07:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with rabbles input! But i think it was a bit too dramatic. Releasing open source is the first step and building a community of people working on the code is a second step. I was mostly annoyed to leave my e-mail to get the code, this should not be ... 

There is are loads of project hosting facilities around: sourceforge, google code just to name the 2 biggest ... and they all offer the needed access and communication, but again: if you feel like rolling out the code, just put a tarball with in on some server, which is IMHO better than hiding it from the world;

and then you have to probably restructure your development process to fit the new infrastructure you are planing to use ... this can be tricky if you want to have a commercial version on top of the open source base (which IMHO is not bad) ... but you maybe end up maintaining 2 development processes ...

years ago I used http://gforge.org as a tool which allows you to setup on your own server and have public and private projects ... this was 5 years ago ... personally since i am now *happy* 100% FOOS developer, i used google code for all of my projects. yes, google is a big evil company, but the project hosting is just very good, very slick, very fast, very high uptime etc ...

and by the way: can please somebody point Kenny to this discussion, i am sure frontlineSMS can learn from it too ;-)

cheers, mk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with rabbles input! But i think it was a bit too dramatic. Releasing open source is the first step and building a community of people working on the code is a second step. I was mostly annoyed to leave my e-mail to get the code, this should not be &#8230; </p>
<p>There is are loads of project hosting facilities around: sourceforge, google code just to name the 2 biggest &#8230; and they all offer the needed access and communication, but again: if you feel like rolling out the code, just put a tarball with in on some server, which is IMHO better than hiding it from the world;</p>
<p>and then you have to probably restructure your development process to fit the new infrastructure you are planing to use &#8230; this can be tricky if you want to have a commercial version on top of the open source base (which IMHO is not bad) &#8230; but you maybe end up maintaining 2 development processes &#8230;</p>
<p>years ago I used <a href="http://gforge.org" rel="nofollow">http://gforge.org</a> as a tool which allows you to setup on your own server and have public and private projects &#8230; this was 5 years ago &#8230; personally since i am now *happy* 100% FOOS developer, i used google code for all of my projects. yes, google is a big evil company, but the project hosting is just very good, very slick, very fast, very high uptime etc &#8230;</p>
<p>and by the way: can please somebody point Kenny to this discussion, i am sure frontlineSMS can learn from it too <img src='http://blog.ushahidi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>cheers, mk</p>
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		<title>By: Valuable Internet Information &#187; Transparency, Communication and our own Personal Failephant - The &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valuable Internet Information &#187; Transparency, Communication and our own Personal Failephant - The &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See the rest here:  Transparency, Communication and our own Personal Failephant - The &#8230; [...]</description>
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